Update on Vacant 918 Orange Ave. Expanding Burger Lounge?

Update 4/29/2012: Thank you to Mr. J. Dean Loring, President and CEO of Burger Lounge Restaurants, who sent me this information regarding this space on Orange Avenue.

"I saw your story on eCoronado and wanted to let you know we tried for several weeks to work with the City to expand Burger Lounge into a portion of that space as we share the landlord, Mrs. Perley.  The City informed us that parking is the primary issue and would not grant the permit for our proposed expansion.  It makes no sense but the parking ordinance appears to have been created to prevent restaurant companies from converting existing retail to restaurant use."

Yours,

Dean 

J. Dean Loring  President-CEO

Burger Lounge Restaurants

Is there anything happening at the lifeless corner of 918 Orange Avenue? Well after a little digging, eCoronado.com can confirm…not much at all. As reported in a previous eCoronado.com post, there were rumors going around that the vacant space between Burger Lounge and the 76 Gas Station was going to turn into a jam shop. After dispelling this rumor, this prime piece of real estate on our main street remains unclaimed.

 However, the property might be divided into two future retail spaces. Taking a clue from the rather large sign in the window of the building, I asked Miss Sheryll Jackman, of the Coronado based construction company, The Jackman Group, if she could elaborate about the current status of this property. She informed me that, “There have been no definitive decisions on the tenant mix in the two spaces that have been created as far as we know.”

 Miss Jackman suggested that I contact Mrs. Jacqueline Perley, of P & G Properties. During our telephone conversation last week, Mrs. Perley advised me that there aren’t any concrete plans for 918 Orange Avenue.

 

Bianca Valle

Online Editorial Intern

eCoronado.com

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Comment by Jim Rohn on April 30, 2012 at 12:44pm

How do they do it in the Gaslight district? There is VERY LITTLE on street parking yet there are HUNDREDS of restaurants in a very small area. How do they do it in other cities with limited parking? Like NYC? I agree that a lot of the traffic is either foot or bicycle traffic. It seems that something could be figured out that does not require building a garage miles away and have to rely on a shuttle ... or a tax hike ...

Comment by Mary Anderson on April 30, 2012 at 1:09pm

As an observation, many of Coronado vacationers (tourists) walk or bike from their respective hotels or rental condos/houses and many others who shop and eat on Main Street arrive here on the Hop on/Hop Off Trolley.  The Village does have a lot of foot/bike traffic. I used my bike for all shopping and appointments in town.

Yes, off street parking would help and should be strongly considered for our Coronado Cays and other residents and visitors who cannot walk to the Village.  But the current reasoning about not leasing space to Burger Lounge doesn't seem  logical.  Why is Burger Lounge any different from other potential retailers or better said, how did the council calculate parking per retailer and what is the difference between them.  Maybe Council should review Muni Code.  It will take a while to build parking if that is ever passed.  Meantime local merchants are being prevented from expanding a successful business.

Comment by Peggy McCloskey on April 30, 2012 at 1:18pm

Yikes, I do not support a tax or use of existing city funds to build a parking structure. I can understand that a drug store (like the retailer previously in the location) had customers that stayed in a parking spot a shorter time than someone dining in Burger Lounge. But since there was a retailer in that location before and the location has been vacant, I would think we (the citizens of Coronado) would rather have a Burger Lounge expansion than the location to remain vacant. Parking will get more difficult when the Walgreens insists on their lot being for their customers only. But perhaps the Coronado Main Street organization can find a way to bring together the BoA, Walgreens, Vons, & Union Bank along with their parking lots to help the overall health of retailers on Orange Avenue. I walk everywhere on Coronado, one of the reasons I live here, but can understand that the retailers need outside customers also. But my observations, like those of other posters, is that the majority of the non-resident customers are from the local hotels or the Trolley.

Comment by Tonia Accetta on April 30, 2012 at 1:18pm

I think that the city would rather see the building occupied by a popular current business than to just leave it as an empty building. Would a new bike rack outside make up for the lack of parking? I find it hard to believe that Burger Lounge would want or need Valet. 

Comment by Jeanette C Aguilar on April 30, 2012 at 1:53pm

Please don't let it turn out like the old Cora Mart building.

Comment by Chuck Sihler on April 30, 2012 at 2:16pm

I concur w/the majority - We need as a City to let Burger Lounge expand - IF THEY Wish to!  Planners have this magic # that they apply to all restaurants as to the number of parking spaces required, however Burger Lounge is not Coronado Brewing Co or Peohe's  where people stay for hours, enjoying the decorating - it is more like a McDonalds, where people stop, eat & leave - maybe lingering over their soda for a couple of minutes- definitely significantly a shorter time.  The only ones who will spend any time are the teenage HS group.  

We will walk down the island - sometimes driving, but more frequently walk to that area.  Unlike Nicky's, where people come in to eat, drink socialize & watch whatever game is on, Burger Lounge is definitely a shorter stay facility and the planners need to recognize the difference.

Comment by Carrie Anne Inada Downey on April 30, 2012 at 5:29pm

Thank you to everyone interested in this issue.  We will be discussing whether there is a need to reopen the issue at the City Council Meeting tomorrow.  Please go to the city web page, download the agenda item and feel free to email the same comments you posted above to the city council members who may not be followng this blog so they can be considered in the discussion.

The short answer as to why the pharmacy did not need parking but Burger Lounge does is because the Orange Avenue Specific plan grandfathered all existing first floor uses at the time the plan was adoted.  Many peole in Coronado were concerned that restaraunts were taking over retail space and were more parking intensive.  Now if a previously granfathered space becomes available, the new use has to meet certain parking requirements if the previous user of that space did not have enough parking.  Specifically resaraunts were called out for additinal parking requirements.  In Panera's case they bought out the rights the Armoir had to the parking spaces in the lot behind their restaraunt so they were allowed to expand.  Currently Nicky Rottens is attempting to expand into the area that was previously the laundrymat by using Valet. 

 

The complexity and the goals of the Orange Avenue Specific Plan was the reason I requested it be reviewed by the council.We want to see if it is still meeting our needs.  Please do participate in prson or by email. 

Comment by Peggy McCloskey on April 30, 2012 at 5:37pm

I am against valet parking anywhere if they get to cordon off ANY parking spaces on Orange or any side streets.

Comment by Michael Vaughan on April 30, 2012 at 6:10pm

This must mean we paved paradise but FORGOT the parking lot!??

Comment by Jeffrey Atencio on April 30, 2012 at 6:39pm

Coronado has promoted itself for decades and there was never enough parking. The city permitted over building and still never did anything about parking.The bridge came with a huge growth of transportation and it did nothing. Now a small business is being punished because of the city councils (all of them over the decades) shortsightedness. Like it or not, a garage is needed. You can't over promote and then get mad when there's no where to park and the burger shop shouldn't be forced to stay small because of decades of ignorance. Put in a shuttle at least so people can park anywhere along Orange Ave and get to the shopping. It's an either or situation. The shuttle would pay for itself many times over and the city comes across as being sensitive to all residents and visitors. If someone doesn't want to use the shuttle, fine. Coronado is small enough to walk across. What's great here is the problem is finally being looked at from outside of the box. Thanks eCornado and Mayor Tanaka.

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