Understanding Proposition H - WE WANT YOUR COMMENTS


Update: Proposition H Fails


Reporting 10 of 10 at 100.0% counted:


NO 68.86 %

YES 31.14 %


Voting results: https://www.sdvote.org/PickRace.asp


eCoronado.com has been getting loads of emails, comments, calls and just plain outbursts about the upcoming Proposition H election scheduled for June 8th, 2010. So, let us know what you think about the upcoming election and if you feel comfortable, let us know how you plan on voting in the comments below.

The City Council of Coronado has placed an Advisory Ballot Measure (Proposition H) on the June 8 ballot for Coronado Voters, in conjunction with the Statewide Primary Election on the same date.

Proposition H asks:

Do you support the City continuing to use and seek federal, state, and local funding to complete the study of long-term traffic relief options, including a tunnel, between the Coronado Bridge and Naval Air Station North Island?

Proposition H is an advisory measure being presented by the Coronado City Council seeking a determination of whether (1) the community supports the use of existing federal, state and local funding to complete the ongoing study of long-term traffic relief options (the "Study"), including the option of a tunnel between the San Diego - Coronado bridge (the "Bridge") and Naval Air Station North Island ("NASNI"), and (2) whether the community supports continued efforts to obtain and use future new federal, state and local funding to implement the ultimate design and construction of improvements of long-term traffic relief options identified in the Study.

Overview

The City of Coronado has been evaluating possible alternatives that could address easing traffic on the bridge, in the community and coming to and from Naval Air Station North Island for the past 12 years.

The project report and environmental studies began in 2004 and currently are 90 percent complete for what is now known as the SR 75/282 Transportation Corridor project. The ballot measure is in regard to this project.

Argument In Favor Of Proposition H (PDF signed by the Mayor and 3 Council Members)

Argument Against Proposition H (PDF signed by 1 Council Member and 1 Citizen)


Rebuttal to Argument in Favor of Proposition H (PDF)

Rebuttal to Argument Against Proposition H (PDF)


City Attorney's Impartial Analysis (PDF)

Additional Proposition H Information

As an advisory measure the City is not bound by the results of the vote. Should the measure fail the City can still proceed to complete the Study, and can choose to pursue federal, state and local funding options for the implementation of traffic relief measures, including a tunnel between the Bridge and NASNI; conversely, should the measure be approved, the City can choose not to proceed with the completion of the Study, or could cease efforts to seek federal, state and local funds for the design and construction of improvements identified in the Study. As of March 2010, the City of Coronado has approximately $7.9 million to complete the project report and environmental study and the estimated costs to complete the study is approximately $2 million.


The material above is from the City of Coronado website. More information can be found here.


Please add your comments below.

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Comment by Mayor Casey Tanaka on April 16, 2010 at 7:01am
We want to see if our citizens still support the pursuit of funding for this project as well as the expenditure of such funds. The wording seeks direction from voters about both the project itself and the pursuit of funding.
Comment by John Patrick Mason on April 16, 2010 at 7:06am
Don't miss the key wording that this an Advisory Measure. Even if the constituents vote a resounding NO, the City Council can give the people the middle finger and continue to waste money on this pipe dream (Pun intended).
Comment by MIKE GAPP on April 16, 2010 at 7:00pm
i think it's pretty obvious that folks don't want a Pipe Bomb dug under their town.

Forget the cost in dollars, I am concerned about the cost in lives.

An attack on a tunnel, especially this one, would be more destructive than on the bridge, as Mayor Tanaka equated it to on another thread here.

Google Shaped Charges (unless you prefer blissful ignorance.)

As an aside, I believe when the tunnel was originally discusssed, folks believed that it was to be bored under the bay, not under the town of Coronado.


This really is a Pipe Dream.


I also echo what others have said here about current traffic.

- I live on Third Street, and the traffic here and on Fourth almost always keeps the cross roads and alleys clear - when they don't keep it clear, it's usually forgiveable human error by some overworked sailor, so no big deal.

- I wave. They wave back.

Go Navy.

It's surprising to see that in this tanking economy that folks have money to waste on Terrorist Bait when cheap ferries, backflowed traffic on Third and Fourth, and many other measures will do, if any are really necessary.

Mayor Tanaka - thanks for being present and open about this subject. - I appreciate your effort to do the right thing by Coronado, but the Tunnel is definitley not it.

With Respect,

Mike Gapp

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Comment by Richard Barck on April 17, 2010 at 11:58am
Our City Council often quotes the results of the "decade-old" election in which residents overwhelmingly approved a "study" to consider building a tunnel. At that time our nation, state and city were all prospering . . . and the claim that the tunnel was wanted by the Navy and would be (nearly entirely) paid for by Federal, State and Armed Forces grants was not unreasonable.

Times have changed!
1) The Navy is "neutral" on its construction but will neither encourage nor discourage their personnel from using the undergroung passage.
2) Neither the Feds nor the State has any money to spare . . .and the "tunnel is so low on thier priority lists as to be non-existent.
3) The City Council seemingly does not recognize that we are in a recession, nor does it realize that spending $ millions/year of the city's money will have no positive result.

There is a business-school study related to THE EXPECTED VALUE OF FUTURE INFORMATION. Basically, if from a practical standpoint one has enough information to conclude there is no external backing for the tunnel (and minimal Coronado backing), then the City of Coronado should stop spending money to search for an unplausible outcome.

My recommendation to the City Council, "Think rationally, not emotionally!"
Respectfully, Richard Barck
Comment by Doug Leland on April 20, 2010 at 9:08am
I would like to see spending on the tunnel project halted AND I would like City Council to pursue alternative means for addressing traffic issues. Proposition H does not allow for both -- either give City Council the tunnel they (4 of 5) seem to want or they will wash their hands of traffic issues going forward. The poor wording of the proposition was pointed out to City Council -- they were given the opportunity to change the language and chose not to (all but Councilwoman Denny). I'm not sure what City Council's agenda is, but it doesn't seem consistent with good government or proper representation of Coronado citizens.
Comment by CECILIA A. CASEY (Cece) on April 20, 2010 at 9:31am
let me get this straight - people want to spend all this money about something that has been beaten into the ground over the years many times - and in the process the school funding etc that would have more of an impact on the lives of the natives of my hometown is being cut ?
STOP PAYING FOR USELESS RESEARCH - give the money to your children and future generations of children education and what about paying the bills on the pool with the monies that some of the folks in nado want to keep throwing down a rabbit hole researching a tunnel - you think traffic is bad now???? What do you think it would be like while they are digging holes into the earth - remember the quake that just happened? anyone want to be underground when another hits???
WAKE UP!
Cece Casey
Thank you,
Comment by Gerry Strachan on April 20, 2010 at 1:14pm
What does the City coucil, except for Barbara Denny, not understand about NO TUNNEL. Wasting more money on top of th $13.2 million (I can hardly type that amount without cringing) is absolutely insane when other effective measures need to be put into action. Would you like to have been in a long tunnel when the earthquake hit on Easter Sunday. Certainly not me and I don't think many of the Navy personnell would either.
Comment by Pamela McCollum on April 20, 2010 at 2:01pm
I still fail to understand how a tunnel solves anything. It does not ease traffic crossing the bridge or coming up from the strand. It took me almost 30 minutes to get home from the airport at 7:15 yesterday morning. Traffic was backed up onto the freeway in all directions and headed for the base. Less than a dozen cars turned left with me on Orange Ave. All the other traffic headed straight to the main gate. At other times of the day -- Orange Ave is the victim of gridlock. Additionally, Ocean Blvd is now like a freeway during shift changes. I don't need an alarm clock anymore. The constant stream of cars wakes me up (early) every morning. Nice.

So what's the solution? Swap cars for buses? Ride share? A separate ferry line from base to base for the Navy only? All of the above? I fully support our service members, but this situation has grown unacceptable. The Navy continues to add to their numbers here, without provision for transportation needs. It seems to me that, at the very least, the Navy needs to be leading the way to provide solutions to this problem.

This traffic nightmare is choking our village to death.
Comment by Gail Parker on June 2, 2010 at 7:26am
Indeed, the Tunnel Studies have clarified why we Don’t need to spend more money! Vote NO on H.

Bear in mind: our City Council plans to select the preferred alternative for us. Whatever the City Council financially commits us to ultimately becomes the responsibility for property owners. Be careful and vote NO on H.

We know that Coronado property owners don’t want to construct or pay for tunnels. We know Tunnels under Coronado won’t solve our traffic problems, and we know they are dangerous and expensive. Let’s be fiscally responsible, Vote NO on Prop H to stop spending on this boondoggle. Let’s put our money where it will do us some good.

Tunnels are an idea whose time has come and gone; the expensive Tunnel Studies (and that is all that was studied) should have been stopped years ago. We voters trust our City Council to make responsible financial decisions. We know that Coronado will always work to solve traffic problems so you can confidently vote NO on H.

A decade ago our city received official letters from the US Navy clearly explaining that they would not allow Tunnels to surface on NASNI because of dangers posed and so Tunnels will create new traffic problems where they do surface in the Alameda & J Street neighborhoods. Vote NO on H.

Are you concerned about our island environment and safety? The P.B. 2004 Environmental Impact Reports (now available at the library) disclosed many extremely bad physical and cultural impacts that this deep construction would have on our island. Examples listed: a) create significant hazard to the public or the environment through the routine transport, use, or disposal of hazardous materials, b) create significant hazard to the public or the environment through reasonably foreseeable upset and accident conditions involving the release of hazardous materials into the environment, c) emit hazardous emissions or handle hazardous or acutely hazardous materials, substances, or waste within one-quarter mile of an existing or proposed school, d) be located on a site which is included on a list of hazardous materials sites compiled pursuant to Government Code section 65962.5 and, as a result, would …create significant hazard to the public or the environment g) impair implementation of or physically interfere with an adopted emergency response plan or emergency evacuation plan. Please vote No on H!

If you are an undecided voter, you might want to consider that the following have recommended a NO vote on Proposition H: San Diego Union Tribune, San Diego Libertarian Party, San Diego and Imperial Counties Labor Council, Stop Taxing Us Now, San Diego Tea Party. The two major parties have not made any endorsement on Prop H.

Over and over we have all heard that there is no other source of funding and that large financial burdens will fall on Coronado taxpayers. The risk to our city and to our personal coffers is great and undecided voters should vote to stop current and future spending on Tunnel Studies. Vote NO on H.
Comment by Vicky Lambert on June 2, 2010 at 7:03pm
I would like to respond to the post asking where the traffic problem is located. I am regularly entangled in base traffic during the afternoon hours between 2 p.m. and 5:30 p.m. (+/- 30 min each way). Traffic empties from the base and cars feed towards Orange on every path from 1st to 7th Streets. Once at Orange, there is a jam in both directions on Orange as NASNI folks (and others such as NAB personnel coming up from the Strand) strain to get to the bridge.

Avoiding the east side of Coronado is not an option for most of us and I don't think that our businesses (Boney's, Coronado Hardware, Albertsons, Coronado Veterinary Hospital, etc.) would like for us to stop coming because it's too tough to get there. I have heard patients at the Coronado Medical complex ask for mid morning appointments in order to avoid the traffic though, and should be a message that there really is a problem.

I also have the opportunity to cross the bridge at 5 a.m. every other week. Traffic is a snap getting to the airport at that time, but returning is a bear. From the time I reached the bridge at 6 a.m. this past Tuesday, it took me about 20 minutes just to cross. The traffic is bumper-to-bumper and can be pretty dicey when it's dark and we have fog, mist or rain.

Many think that traffic is just a modern problem that we have to live with. But this leads to a dialogue about the safety of our streets and our choices regarding public safety. Traffic is heaviest when our kids are out there walking to and from school and home. Is it going to take a child (or any person) being injured or killed to prove that we have a problem? I hope not... but until we agree that we have a traffic problem, we run that risk every day.

Yes I am fed up... with too much traffic on our streets which makes getting around our city hard to do and which endangers walkers and bikers young and old.

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